Brannon Interviews Pat Boone About His Life, Music, Acting Career, Faith And Work With Ronald Reagan And John Wayne To Fight Communism In America.


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Brannon Howse: An honor now to have with us, Pat Boone. Someone I grew up admiring. Of course, I grew up also listening to his daughter's music, Debby Boone, You Light Up My Life. So, the Boone family is quite well known. We're going to talk about many things, his career, his music career. He, of course, has been working for many, many years with Swiss America. I've been working with Swiss America for 15 years, Greg Smith and Dean Haskin and all of them over there.

We're also going to talk about the anti-communist movement because Pat Boone, Mr. Pat Boone, is a historical figure. Did you know that? In many ways, not just his great music career, his movie career, which, by the way, he's got a new movie coming out. But he also is a very historic figure when it comes to working with people like John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, and many others to fight communism. Mr. Boone, welcome to Brannon Howse Live. Thank you for joining us.

Pat Boone: Great to be with you, Brannon. We have many interests in common.

Brannon Howse: Yes, we do. One of them is our mutual friend, Marty Goetz, who was your daughter's orchestra director for like ten years.

Pat Boone: What a dear man. What a great musician. Really just an outstanding human being.

Brannon Howse: Indeed. Well, we've only got limited time with you because you're backed up doing a lot of interviews. I want to talk to you about so many things. But first of all, let's talk a little bit about you. You've got a brand-new movie coming out. Are you 88? Did I read that correctly?

Pat Boone: Well, I'm in the last couple of weeks of my 88th year. I have to say I'm 87. But when you turn 88, on June 1st, you will have lived your 88th year. So that's when you get to be 88. It's because you've already lived 88 years now. I'll begin my 89th year in just about nine days.

Brannon Howse: Wow. Congratulations. And yet you're still working. You just got done wrapping up on a movie, did you not?

Pat Boone: Yes. Called The Mulligan, and it's a second chance. A do-over in golf, and it's a wonderful film. We previewed it in what's called a fathom event in a thousand theaters across the country for two nights. Now the distributors are deciding who's going to actually distribute the film in its normal two or three-week engagements across the nation. It's really a very good film. You know, millions of people love golf, but there are almost no movies about golf.

This is a wonderful movie, which I play, and this took some acting, an old pro who was much revered, almost like Bobby Jones or Gene Sarazen. I'm called on to help this young billionaire who is doing great with his business, but his personal life is a shambles. I'm called in to help his golf but also get his life straightened out because he needs a few mulligans, do-overs in his personal life. It's a very good practical film. It has a strong gospel theme, but anybody can enjoy the film because of its golf and because it is practical life lessons.

Brannon Howse: You mentioned the gospel. Of course, I'm a Christian. You're a Christian. Mike Lindell, who I run this TV network and founded with, he's obviously a very vocal Christian. Tell me really quickly, if you would before we get into the anti-communist movement and so many other very interesting things, including Swiss America, tell me about your coming to Christ.

Pat Boone: Oh, well, I was one of those wonderful lucky ones who grew up in a Christian family in Nashville. My dad, a building contractor, and my mama registered nurse both very practical professions. But part of our practical lives was family devotionals at home. Church Sunday morning, Sunday night, and Wednesday night. Reading and believing the Bible and knowing who we were as believers in Christ. And, of course, it was expected of us being taught the way we were, that by the time we got to be about 12 years old, we would recognize our need for a savior and walk down the aisle and confess whatever sins I might have had at 12 or 13 and that I needed Jesus to be my Savior and wanted him. I did that. I was baptized, and that made a difference.

I was not a bad kid, you know. I'd made a few mistakes and done a few things I shouldn't do. Everybody does. But now, there was a difference in my life. I knew from that time on I was a child of the living God and that Jesus was my Savior. So, when I went into high school, I never learned to curse. A lot of my friends did, though. I was in a Christian high school, and I never, you know, there have been times almost when I wish I could when things happen because everybody hits their thumb with the hammer or hits a bad shot or something, so I use my name, Boone. Oh, Boone! It works as an epithet if I want it to. But actually, the name Boone means blessing. "So and so granted a boon to his subjects, though.

And so, the king so-and-so is a boon to his profession." So, I tried to live up to that and to the reality that as a child of God and Jesus as my Savior, I'm to live a certain life, a kind of life, and to be a certain kind of person. So, when I married at 19, my wife and I. That's another whole story, why we felt the urgency. But her dad was Red Foley, the great country singer, and he was a widower. Shirley's mom had died. He was taking his three daughters to Missouri to start the Ozark Jubilee. I was going to lose her. I thought if she goes off to Missouri, you know, she's a wonderful, wonderful, beautiful girl, and other guys are going to move in, and I'm going to be out of the picture.

So, I asked her to marry me, and she did. Her dad gave permission. I didn't ask my folks because they would have said, "Oh, no, you don't. Wait until you get out of college." So, we married at 19. But Shirley and I knew that I was planning to be a teacher preacher. I was not going to be a singer. I mean, I was a singer already doing a lot of singing around Nashville Musical City. But anyway, I won a national contest at Ted Mack Amateur Hour three times, and then another one on The Arthur Godfrey Show. All of a sudden, I had a record contract. And though we moved to Denton, Texas, where I was already preaching in a little country church, then working on local TV there in Fort Worth, all of a sudden, I made a record, and overnight I became a teen idol.

From that time on, I knew that God had given me a platform. I was not going to be located teacher or preacher, but I was a Christian with an unusual platform, and I would share my life from then on and my belief and my faith from that platform as an entertainer, which I have always tried to do. I've written books for teenagers that became bestsellers. I have been on the board of several Christian colleges. I'm involved with two now, Pepperdine and David Lipscomb in Nashville and Abilene, Texas, Abilene Christian. So, my life as a person has been a strong life and faith with my four daughters, my wonderful wife of 67 years now, though, she's been in heaven the last two years, but she's still my wife, and she's waiting for me. So that's as brief as I can tell you why I am who I am.

Brannon Howse: I guess you had to make some strong decisions then as you became quite popular, as you say, a teen idol and started making movies as well. My guess is you had to make some strong decisions as to the roles you'd play, the music you would sing, and the things you would do that would be consistent with your Christian convictions. Correct?

Pat Boone: You are so right. Because to my amazement, after my first few hit records, in fact, here's a record about me that people don't know. I have a record in the record business of 220 consecutive weeks without ever being off the charts with one record, usually two, one going up, one down. Elton John is the closest with 157 weeks, but no other artist has been on the record charts for over four years, and that is the singles record charts without ever being off. Elvis went to the Army after three years and wasn't recording. The Beatles, after three years, put out albums instead of singles. So as far as single records and I've recorded 2,300 songs, more than any other artist in seven different genres.

So, I mean, I've been a recording fool because I love to do it, and I'm capable of doing it. I have, you know, jazz and country gospel, a cappella, hard rock, heavy metal, and country. All these genres of music. But meanwhile, I have written books on advice for teenagers, and later on, for married folks, two of them were million-seller books and several million in hardcover. All these things have been ways of expressing my faith as an entertainer. But I did turn down a movie with Marilyn Monroe in the early part of my career.

We were both at 20th Century Fox, and Buddy Adler, the head of the studio, was said, "You're going to be thrilled. We're going to put you with Marilyn Monroe." And I read the script, and I said, "I can't do this film." "Why?" "It's about a young kid who falls in love with and has an infatuation with this older but still beautiful cabaret performer played by Marilyn Monroe. They're in a small town. She comes home to regroup for the rest of her life. They get involved, they have an affair, and he's going to quit college, and he's going to marry her and get a job. She knows that's not going to work, so she leaves him broken-hearted. But, of course, in those films, they say, "Well, of course, he'll get over it, and he'll always remember that bittersweet romance that didn't work out."

"I can't do this, Mr. Editor," I said. He Said, "Why?" "Because I've got millions of teenage fans, and this film is going to make it look like it's perfectly okay for this story to happen and for me to play this part, and I can't do it." And he was apoplectic. He said, "You're going to turn down a movie with Marilyn Monroe? This is medieval," he said. And I said, "Well, look, Mr. Abbott, you have to do what you do, but I have to follow my own conscience." So, I turned down that movie to his great chagrin.

So, he put me in another film called Journey to the Center of the Earth, which became a cult classic. It saved the studio. They made the other movie not with Marilyn Monroe but with Joanne Woodward and Richard Beemer from West Side Story. It was a horrible flop. It cost them money. But the movie that they put me into, Journey to the Center of the Earth, saved the studio from bankruptcy while they were losing money.

While Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton were putting them into bankruptcy because they were pursuing their romance and not making the movie Cleopatra. They would go to Spain for a week for their romantic interludes and leave 5,000 extras waiting, standing around in Rome. So, 20th Century Fox almost went under when my film Journey to the Center of the Earth came out. If I'd done that other film, they would have gone bankrupt. But my movie saved them. The one that they didn't want me to do.

Brannon Howse: Wow. Excellent story. Let's move quickly because, again, our time is limited. We need to get you back because I know we can talk about so much. You and I talked off the air before we went on air about the anti-communist movement in Hollywood. I'm working on a documentary, part two of a documentary on brainwashing and information operation and how the Communists have used that for decades to get into our schools and into our media, and into our religious circles.

I'm highlighting, as I did in one of my other documentaries, great anti-communist crusaders. I always say to people, you know, people say, "Well, we need to be known for what we are for, not for what we're against." I said, "You know; when you're an anti-communist crusader, then you're obviously pro the antithesis. You're pro-religion, you're pro-family, you're pro-private property, you're pro-free market."

Pat Boone: Pro-freedom.

Brannon Howse: Absolutely. But we know John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, Fred Schwartz, so many of these guys were strong anti-communists. My question to you before we went on air was, were you running in any of these circles? And wow, you started telling me some fascinating stories. Will you tell our audience about this?

Pat Boone: Yeah, I was right in the middle of all of it. I was known to be a strong anti-communist then. Fred Schwartz wrote the book: You Can Trust the Communists to Do What They Say. That book had been a big bestseller, but it was a controversial book. But he was saying things like the communists are working their way into the entertainment business. After which came the McCarthy hearings because there were very important producers and writers and even actors who were becoming Communists, and it was influencing the entertainment business right then.

You can trust them to move into education, which they were doing, teachers and professors all becoming Communists. The slogan: Better Red Than Dead. After all, what's wrong with communism? Russia is a big country and affluent and strong. What's wrong with communism? Better Red Than Dead. So don't fight the Communists. Of course, that rankled me as a father of four daughters and a strong Christian, and a good American. So, when Ronald Reagan and the others began to organize these crusades, and he was not governor yet at that time, John Wayne and the other actors who were strong patriots were participating, and so was I.

So, there was a big rally in the sports arena, and Reagan himself, after he became president, quoted me several times though he never mentioned my name. Although it's been written about in books in which my name is mentioned, because he was not sure if my wife was appalled when I said it in front of the sports arena with about, I don't know, it was 18,000 people or so.

My time came to speak, I said, "Look, I'm a father of four daughters, four little girls, and I love my girls more than I love my own life. This slogan, Better Red Than Dead, is going abroad, and young people are buying into it. But I want to say right now that if it comes down to it, and I pray it never will. I hope we'll be strong enough that it will never come to this. But if it does, America becomes a communist nation. I would rather before that happens, I would rather see my four daughters blown into heaven in an atomic explosion than taught into hell by a communist government."

And, of course, it was a stunner. Then the audience began to applaud. They began to stand and applaud more, saying, "Yes!" If it comes to that, I pray that it won't. But if it comes to that choice, I would rather see my kids, nobody wants this to happen, but the main thing is I don't want them taught into hell. So, whatever it takes to prevent that, I'm for it. And so, Reagan quoted that a number of times. However, after that, there were many others.

There was an event with John Wayne in Dallas, a big anti-communism rally in the Cotton Bowl. And, you know, tens of thousands were there. And before it began, I was emceeing it. I was emceeing. I'd be introducing John Wayne and the lieutenant governor and others. We suddenly had to leave the stage because the police got a call, a warning that there was a bomb planted under the stage and it was timed to go off during our event. So as emcee, I had the mic, and I walked off the stage. As I did, I said, "Folks, we've got to call. I don't want you to be alarmed because we're going to leave the stage while the police come and inspect. But if anything happens, you've got a great seat for it. You're safe where you are. But the police warned there may be a bomb under this stage. So just hold put while the police search."

I was about 20 feet away with the mic. I didn't believe there was a bomb. It turned out there was not. It was just an attempt to sabotage the event. So, then everybody came back on stage. We went ahead with the rally, and the newspaper, the Dallas Times-Herald, and all the papers quoted the next day with pictures. John Wayne and the lieutenant governor said, "Pat Boone stood close enough to the stage that he could have been killed. He stood there talking, calming us all down until we found out there was no bomb after all."

So, yes, I was always involved and trying to be what I think all Americans should do, which is stand up and speak out for what we believe. Don't be cowed by liberals, by socialists, by communists. And, of course, I know how some of our governmental processes have been affected by Saul Alinsky's Rules for Revolution. He laid down all the Communist principles, as Fred Schwartz had for how the Communists would take over eventually a sleepy, drowsy, terribly unconcerned, American overconfident populace not being on guard for what they said outright in writing what they would do.

They're doing it now. Some of our own elected officials are now even coming out and saying they're socialists, or progressives, which is just another word for communism.

Brannon Howse: Absolutely. Wow. I wish we had more time, but let's get a few more questions in here. We're going to have to get you back. Two more questions for you. One of the goals we see of the Communists comes from our POWs in the Korean War and North Korea. They moved anyone that was an officer, who was religious, that was a leader away from the group, and they found they only had to move away 5% of the leaders to get the other 95% to go along with their brainwashing.

Pat Boone: Yeah.

Brannon Howse: Do you see this in America? Have you seen this in America where patriotic, God-fearing conservatives, constitutionalists, and Christians have stolen from them the opportunities to maybe be more visible, particularly maybe in Hollywood and influential places, because they are so strong in their worldview of conservative values and opposing communism, etc.?

Pat Boone: Certainly, in the entertainment business, because the last thing anybody in the entertainment business wants is ridicule from people in the business. Of course, that's also true in politics. That's one of the great weapons of the Socialists and Communists is to find ways to try to make a responsible leader, let's say, like Mike Pence or certainly Trump, make him look ridiculous. Now, of course, unfortunately, Trump and his manner of speaking, and some of his tweets and all that sort of fed into their campaign. He was easy to ridicule, even though he was doing all the right things for the country. But ridicule is one of their prime weapons. In the entertainment business, there are thousands of people that I know.

I was part of an organization that's gradually kind of wound down because Gary Sinise, who started it, called the Reagan Organization. Really, I've forgotten the name that we called ourselves, but there are hundreds, at least hundreds of people in important positions, writers, directors, and actors, who don't dare talk about the fact that they are actually conservative and that they might be for conservative principles because they'll lose their jobs and they'll be ridiculed and out of the business. That's the entertainment business right now.

That's why Hollywood is so liberal because even though many people in the most influential positions know that their jobs are at stake, they cannot succeed in the entertainment business if they are known. John Wayne was one of the last. He was too big and too popular for them to ridicule out of show business. But from then on, it is the kiss of death in the entertainment business to be an outspoken conservative, much less Christian. You can be a Buddhist. You can be a Communist. You can be into ESP, all these other things. You can bend spoons with your mind, all these things, and that's just who you are. It's just a quirk.

But if you're an outspoken Christian, you're a fool, and they don't want to hire you. They don't want to work with you. They don't want to be associated with you. So, the time has come for those of us who care, really, and who have any faith at all. I've written a book that's coming out in September, and I'm going to be criticized terribly for it. I know it's called IF. Just IF is the title of the book, and on the cover is just that title scrawled with a heavy marking pen. The corners of the book look like they have been singed as if it's been pulled out of a book burning. There's a red warning sign: Not Religious Life or Death. The IF is heaven or hell. God's choice is for us to come to heaven. But our choice is whether we go to heaven or hell.

Even ministers today don't want to preach that. But that is what the Bible says. It is God who says it. I'm writing it not for religious people. I'm writing it for the over 50% of Americans who, according to Barna and Gallup, report that less than half of Americans are in a church or a synagogue or practice their faith openly or pray often, or if they even are sure there is a God. So, I'm writing for that totally, I don't mean it pejoratively, ignorant, over half of our American population who don't have a faith. They don't want to.

Brannon Howse: We'd love to have you tell us about that when it comes out, that's for sure. I know you're on a tight schedule. Let me ask you about Swiss America. I've been working with Swiss America for 15 years. You've been working with Swiss America as their spokesperson for 20 plus years. I know you get invited to endorse and have for decades now, decades and decades to endorse a lot of products and to be a spokesperson.

Why did you choose Swiss America, who's also been one of our sponsors for 15 years? I do TV productions for Swiss America, but I've been a client of Swiss America. I've been buying precious metals since 1992. So I was in my early twenties, you know when I started buying precious metals. Why did you choose Swiss America? Do you own precious metals? And if so, why?

Pat Boone: I certainly do. I was way ahead of you because I knew Craig Smith, who built that company, Swiss America, 40 years ago. He was a friend. I knew he knew the economy. He's often on Fox News. They'd ask him for his opinions about politics and the economy and where are we going. They know he's a prime expert. He built that business Swiss America collecting rare gold coins. Rare gold coins because they grow in value every year. Before I even knew Craig, I was reading on the planes the business magazines, and I would read about Warren Buffett.

I would read about companies that were succeeding. I noticed that while the American dollar was going down in value every year because of our spending and inflation, and other policies, that rare coins and gold itself was going up in value every year. So, I talked to Craig Smith about it, and I bought then some rare gold coins and put them in my vault at Wells Fargo. Then I began to buy more and more. But I also in my own home safe, I can say this, I was putting some cash just against emergencies which everybody ought to do. What if the dollar loses its value or it diminishes so that I'm not earning enough. I'm going to have some cash for emergencies.

But what was hitting me was that the dollars in my safe were losing value while my coins over in the vault were gaining in value. The worse the dollar does, the better the coins will do. So, of course, it made common sense to me. Then I realized that an expensive rare gold coin, you can't always if it comes down to it, swap for groceries or for clothes or other necessities for your family in a time of real trouble. If the economy collapses, you know, how much can $500 in gold be. Who's going to take it? Because how are they going to get their value out of it? But it still has its value where the dollar doesn't.

So, I bought a lot of silver coins. I bought so many silver coins in a great big container, a box that was so heavy, I couldn't, I'm a strong guy, but I couldn't lift that. All the silver coins. So, I had to have somebody help me get them over to another vault at the bank so that if the dollar completely loses its value, I've got these $25 silver pieces. They'll be worth a lot more than $25. But at least they can be a coin of the realm. I can actually buy groceries and food and gas or whatever emergencies I have with silver coins that I put away.

And so, for me, you know, the Bible says that it recommends the ant as an example because the ant prepares for cold weather and puts away and stocks food for the cold weather, the ant. The little ant. But we human beings don't think ahead enough to even be as wise as that little ant. But I've tried to be at least ant wise and collect as much, to put as much money as I can as I think is sensible into gold and silver coins through Swiss America, because I know I'm preparing for the worst calamities that could happen, or even for some that might not be that worse but having silver coins or gold coins that I can trade for life essentials.

I would have them for my family and my loved ones, but also as just an investment. They continue to increase in value. I don't have that money in my safe. So, if anybody's thinking I'm going to break into Pat Boone's house. I don't collect any money at the house, any paper money that is losing its value even as we speak. Thanks to this government, our dollar is going down in value. Go to the gas pump, go to the store, try to buy baby food formula now, and you'll see why we need to prepare for emergencies with something that's going to retain its value. Silver and gold are the best there are as well as our faith in God who can overrule in all these things.

Brannon Howse: Wow. Absolutely. Amen to that. I like how you mentioned gold is a great way to park it and preserve your wealth while the crisis works out. Silver can be used as that smaller denomination medium of exchange. I love that. Before we let you go and I know the answer, but I want you to tell our audience. So, tell me about Mike Lindell. Do you know Mike Lindell?

Pat Boone: I do very well. He's been in my home. He's been sitting like three feet from where I am now. We went down to a premiere of a film he invested in. He drove us with his family because he invested in it. That guy, he's not just a great businessman, but he is a great patriot, and he's a great lover of other people. He exudes that, you know, in his commercials, you can tell that he really loves you and loves people, and he's doing things that he thinks will help you. Well, it's making him a wealthy man, and he's using his wealth to help America. I was on the way to the film, a pro-life film that he helped finance.

The film did extremely well with Dennis Prager and the comedian, oh, gosh, Adam Carolla. He and Dennis traveled college campuses trying to talk to people, to college kids who are so indoctrinated with the new liberal socialist philosophies by their teachers that they cannot even use the name of Jesus in a paper. They know that all their educational experts are anti-God in most cases. Therefore, they are pretty well condemned to leave college without any faith at all. So, they believe in all these horrible things like pro-choice. The choice is life or death. Which is what my book is about. Although it's not about that particular subject, it includes it. But that's not its theme. But yes, pro-choice. I'm all for choice before conception. I mean, even teenage girls now, of course, rape and incest and the life of the mother.

Reagan himself, who was very, very pro-life, wrote a book: Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation during his first term. His own advisers said, "Chief, don't do that. You're going to you may cost you the re-election." He said, "Well, can you guarantee me I'm going to be re-elected?" And they couldn't, of course. "So, while I have the bully pulpit, I'm going to say what I think and believe." And so, he wrote the book: Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation, in which he said, "He could endorse no excuse for taking the life of a child."

That's what it is, either before or after or almost born. No situation other than rape, incest, or if the mother's life is seriously threatened, which is only like one or 2% of all abortions. So Planned Parenthood, what it is, is an abortion mill. They do other things. But there are many other good Christian organizations that do the same things that are good. If it weren't for Planned Parenthood, which is Planned Un-Parenthood. It's not Planned Parenthood. It's Planned Un-Parenthood. I mean, they use these terms because they make it sound so loving and caring. It's not. It's about the death of a child.

Brannon Howse: Absolutely.

Pat Boone: I've written songs and recorded them. I've held babies in my arms that were allowed to live because of the songs that were heard on radio and on TV, on Christian channels. I've held babies in my arms whose teenagers or younger women allowed their kids to live because they heard my song, Let Me Live.

Brannon Howse: Wow.

Pat Boone: So, I mean, I've been that active in that cause as well.

Brannon Howse: Wow. What an honor to interview you. I know you're strapped for time. We want to definitely get you back. Fascinating interview. I know we're going to get a ton of feedback, positive feedback. Thank you for your testimony, your courage, and your faithfulness. Thank you for all you're doing and for making available time for us.

Pat Boone: Let me mention a couple of things because I'm not just sitting here talking to you. I'm getting ready. I'm enjoying it, though, Brannon. But I'm on my way to do my next two shows on SiriusXM. It's called 50s Gold. It's on about eight times a week on SiriusXM. I'm telling the story of the 50s throughout. I had 41 chart records in the 50s. Elvis had 40. And so, I'm telling the story of all the music, playing it for an hour, eight times a week on SiriusXM.

Brannon Howse: Do you know what channel? Because I have SiriusXM. Do you know what channel?

Pat Boone: Yeah, it's, I think 70. I think Sinatra's 72. I think I'm 70. They changed it recently. But it is 50s Gold is the name of it. Then I'm also starting a podcast. We've done 12 of them already, and it's on XOTV and on my Facebook page. So, I'm doing a 20 to 30-minute podcast telling the story of my life and career. And it's funny and informative, and I want people to know about it because it's coming on strong already.

On Spotify, for example, I've got about 150 of my 2,300 songs, and Spotify has agreed that they will keep on archiving my whole record catalog. Eventually, there'll be 2,300 Pat Boone recordings on Spotify. We're up to; I don't know, some thousands and thousands every week that are listening to me on Spotify, but they're only hearing a small portion of what I've recorded, and we're going to keep that coming.

Brannon Howse: Fascinating, 89, almost 89, 89 in June, and you're still going. You know what Spotify is and all this technology. Man alive. I'm 53, and I feel like I better step up my game a little bit. Wow, what an inspiration.

Pat Boone: I've got some kids that can help me get through it.

Brannon Howse: Thank you, sir, for your time. A real honor to have you on our show tonight.

Pat Boone: Thank you. Thank you. And see you again. My pleasure!

Brannon Howse: I hope so. Thank you, folks. Pat Boone checking in, folks. Wow. Fascinating interview. We'll be sure to get him back. Also, after it airs live here, we will put that online for you guys to share far and wide, Pat Boone. Wow.

Brannon Howse: I recorded that this morning, so I brought that to you just now. Thank you for all the comments. I'll make sure that Pat sees those. I will make sure that it gets to his right-hand man, whom I have been working with, so he can see all those. I got his age wrong. I put an extra year on him. He'll be 88 in June. I was already calling him 89. But what an interview. I mean, and what a guy. All he's doing now. He's still doing radio and playing the songs from the 50s and disc jockey on XM radio, playing the songs from the 1950s.

I'm telling you, I've got to step my game up. Books, movies, disc jockey for the 1950s songs. What a guy, what a testimony. We'll get him back. We're going to get him back because the comment section is blowing up. And again, thank you, the guys, for doing that. We'll be sure to capture all these comments on the page and make sure he sees them. He'll love reading those. Thank you. Thank you for watching. Take care.


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